deficit picture, and that it will create complacency in washington about tack 8ing -- tackling the nation's debt problem. liz? liz: peter barnes in washington. we could see this again, although, of course, we realized, the first time it's a shock. second time, people say, yeah, we've been here before, seen it before. two years ago, all the traders dealt with the fall of the dow jones industrials of more than 635 points because a credit ratings agency, whose reputation already on the line after the financial crisis making bad calls back then, s&p said that our credit worthiness here in the u.s. was not up to snuff. forget that warren buffet came on fox business right away and said, yes, it is. the fact is ratings agencies, do you believe them or not? well, since the financial crisis, a brand new one sprouted up,croll. the president is going to join us to talk about what they do differently and now they feel about s&p's calls. the president of croll coming up. we're live from the new york stock exchange. ♪ the bs used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big